goth bands you love?

[gothicgal]

i love all of them like evanescence, elis, leaves eyes etc!!!!!!!!!

[Freyja]

ughh, evanescence are NOT goth! they are ****ing pop rock. end of. I havent heard Elis, but I wouldnt call Leaves Eyes goth either.

Cradle of Filth are goth metal. London After Midnight, End of You, Sisters of Mercy, Fields of the Nepelim etc are goth rock.

Learn what you're talking about before you go make posts.

[Dimbat]

According to wikipedia.org, both Elis and Leaves Eyes are goth metal.

I've not heard either, so I cannot tell.

Evenescence are not goth though.

But ignore Freyja, she's a bit of a neeb

[Tom]

ughh, evanescence are NOT goth! they are ****ing pop rock. end of. I havent heard Elis, but I wouldnt call Leaves Eyes goth either.

Cradle of Filth are goth metal. London After Midnight, End of You, Sisters of Mercy, Fields of the Nepelim etc are goth rock.

Learn what you're talking about before you go make posts.

Evanescene are stereotypically "gothic", they arent goth rock.

However, they arent pop/rock either...

[gothicgal]

never, they r hip hop

[Frank Iero Rulz]

evanescence are metal. That's what HMV and Cd Plus and Music World say.......

[Freyja]

EVANESCENCE ARE NOT METAL!
HMV's classification is shit. They put The Darkness in metal. In fact most CD shops classification is shit.

[Tom]

EVANESCENCE ARE NOT METAL!
HMV's classification is shit. They put The Darkness in metal. In fact most CD shops classification is shit.

Evanescene arent metal.

They are "rock", not "metal"

[Frank Iero Rulz]

well, there are some songs on fallen that could............................

[Dimbat]

Jonny, don't pretend you know the first thing about metal.

[Frank Iero Rulz]

I don't, and we've been through that, it's just that a lot of music stores (ones that would never sell death metal or heavy metal.) have low standerds and market things that under most peoples standers would be lower. Such as Simple Plan Punk (were they would be Rock/Pop.) Evanescence metal (were they would be Pop/Rock) Death From Above 1979 punk (were they would be hardcore.)

[Dimbat]

Exactly.

Music stores put most emo, and some pop/rock, and even nu-metal under the metal section.

It makes me want to scream.

It does not mean that the band is whatever genre it falls under in a record store.

[Frank Iero Rulz]

you have to go to self owned stores with people who know what there talking about to get the right sections built.

[Dimbat]

Specialist stores really

[Frank Iero Rulz]

exactley.

[Freyja]

i want to go to that black metal shop in Oslo opened up by Euronymous.
I may open a similar shop myself, but in Bristol, when I am older. Bristol has no specialist metal shops, and I feel it could do with one.

[not a whore-really]

i love all of them like evanescence, elis, leaves eyes etc!!!!!!!!!
i love evenescence they're a really good band
(sorry for being so late on that, i just signed up today)

[Tom]

i want to go to that black metal shop in Oslo opened up by Euronymous.
I may open a similar shop myself, but in Bristol, when I am older. Bristol has no specialist metal shops, and I feel it could do with one.

Youd be lucky to stay afloat.

Specialist shops are very hard to make work.

[Dimbat]

I'd definately visit your shop Freyja, at least once a week ^^

[Frank Iero Rulz]

were I live, i'm the only one who listens to that type of music. Everyone here like country and pop and rap. And only the popular people. I'm critized for liking all the bands that I do. Never move here, you'll loose your patience more then once with these sheep following the flock.

[Freyja]

woo i have one guaranteed customer

but opening a black metal shop could convert all the little faggoths to true metal, and a black metal revolution will sweep over bristol, and then bristol would be full of black metallers rather than chavs..

ah well, we can hope.

[Frank Iero Rulz]

i'll go blow the air raid horn as the drop people with pointy clothes at us.

[Dimbat]

I don't think your plan will work, and I agree with Tom: Your business would most probably fail...

I suggest you stock on all forms of metal, and then nu-metal... so that the maximum amount of customers would enter.

Also you should stock up on merchandise of bands =D

It'd be great, lol

[Ross]

Why not just make a "rock shop" have all type of music

[Frank Iero Rulz]

then we'd all come (hate it or love it)

[Freyja]

Yeah, I was planning to have a load of band merch. Euronymous' shop has CDs, merch etc.
But making it all types of metal sounds a good idea.
No Ross, I dont like rock music. And there's already The Rock Shop in St Nick's.

[Ross]

you already planed it?

wow you might wana start saving

[Frank Iero Rulz]

I would go to freyja's store. (if i ever do go to Bristol.)

[Dimbat]

If you went to Freyja's shop... hahaha

*funny images*

[Frank Iero Rulz]

I would stand out like a sore thumb.....and i'm a clutz.....so.........

[Dimbat]

You'd get raped

[Ripe_With_Decay]

by Greg :o

[Dimbat]

Yep, that's probably true

[Frank Iero Rulz]

:shock: good to know (for future referense)

[gothicgal]

I don't, and we've been through that, it's just that a lot of music stores (ones that would never sell death metal or heavy metal.) have low standerds and market things that under most peoples standers would be lower. Such as Simple Plan Punk (were they would be Rock/Pop.) Evanescence metal (were they would be Pop/Rock) Death From Above 1979 punk (were they would be hardcore.)

god all this over evanescence, i only say there goth as other people told me, i didnt think they were that goth, london after midnight rock aswell, i listen to there music, and now i love them, and the way they dress

[Frank Iero Rulz]

we weren't fighting, if that's what you mean.

[Ripe_With_Decay]

god all this over evanescence, i only say there goth as other people told me, i didnt think they were that goth, london after midnight rock aswell, i listen to there music, and now i love them, and the way they dress

You didn't think that they were that goth.... allow me to correct you.... You didn't think they were the gothic psssh there is no excuss for bad grammer...

[Dimbat]

You have never pointed out grammar or spelling before...

If I was going to be fussy, I'd say italics should not be used, and instead quote marks. I'd also say that you should have a full stop after "gothic".

[Frank Iero Rulz]

:roll: whatever you say!

[RubberPalmTrees]

god all this over evanescence, i only say there goth as other people told me, i didnt think they were that goth, london after midnight rock aswell, i listen to there music, and now i love them, and the way they dress

Isnt the whole debate over whether Evanescence is gothic or not, not only getting really old, but also a complete waste of time? Who cares. You like them or you dont. It SHOULDNT matter.

[Frank Iero Rulz]

now SHE makes scense!

[Ripe_With_Decay]

You have never pointed out grammar or spelling before...

If I was going to be fussy, I'd say italics should not be used, and instead quote marks. I'd also say that you should have a full stop after "gothic".

tou che

[Frank Iero Rulz]

ripe with deacay, my sig used to be the same as yours, except that the flashing things were MCR names and the lyrics were MCR.

[Ripe_With_Decay]

So it was the the same, yet completely different....... Foolish boy!!!!

[Frank Iero Rulz]

well, i am rather foolish........................................... ..........

[Dimbat]

Idiot.

Don't mess with Damian, big Mr D, hardcore goffak!

[Frank Iero Rulz]

I wasn't meesn with him.

[Dimbat]

You are an idiot.

[Frank Iero Rulz]

probably.

[Dimbat]

Prime example of a shit response. No point in posting that. Please restrain yourself from posting one sentence posts in the future.

[Frank Iero Rulz]

I could but that would be no fun!

[Freyja]

Lets not hijack this thread.

[Frank Iero Rulz]

hijack it with insults?

[Freyja]

i said dont hijack it.
lets get back on topic.

[Frank Iero Rulz]

of gothic music?? Dose MM count?

[Freyja]

no, MM is industrial.

[Frank Iero Rulz]

what is this world coming to!!!

[Freyja]

what?
Marilyn Manson has always been industrial. His music is NOT goth.

[Frank Iero Rulz]

well he is, (oh god, here it comes................*closes eyes tightly*.

But I like Twiggy the best.

[Freyja]

I guess manson's image is goth. but the music is not.

[Frank Iero Rulz]

That's what I ment. I was watching cribs (shut up!!) oh, cribs is a show were they show famous peoples houses, and they give you a tour, and the persons was Twiggi Rimarez's house. And I thought he was Marilyn and I was thinking, wow, I thought Marilyn hated religion period!! And then half way through Marilyn shows up looking like a freak beside Twiggi!

[Frankie.Is.Mine]

I thought Marilyn Manson and HIM were gothic metal...

I like the Eyeliners... They're good...

[Frank Iero Rulz]

him are, marilyn manson is industrial though, but i thought that too!

[Ross]

Him Are Not Gothic Metal!!!!!!!!!

[Frank Iero Rulz]

gothic though.

[Ripe_With_Decay]

I am not even going to try..... You people are already too far gone for me to try although I obviously care due to me posting this. However I am too busy trying to contain my disgust at the moment so I shall post again after I bang my head against a brick wall..... Wait a min that means I am going to try..... :|

[Ross]

What anoys you so much?

[Freyja]

the misconception of gothic perhaps?

[Ross]

A trend.

[Ripe_With_Decay]

Indeed... It annoys me how such a thing has been ripped apart into its sterotypical shell.

[Ross]

I still dont understand how music can be gothic

[Frank Iero Rulz]

gothic is a phase and all goths usually become born again christians. emo is a rip off of gothic.

[Ross]

Emo is no rip of from gothic fool

[Freyja]

**** off frank iero rules. you know nothing of true goths.

[Ross]

I agree he does not no a thing!

[descend_the_shades_of_night]

errr... i like Within Temptation if that counts... sorri 2 offend if im jus bein stupid... :oops:

[Frank Iero Rulz]

*shakes head* you'll see when your 40 with 3 kids trying to keep them quite during mass (or watever the hell they do in the roman catholic chirch)

[Freyja]

****ing hell
never am i ****ing devoting my life to some ****ing 'greater being'
and i am never having ****ing kids. cant stand the little shits.

[Frank Iero Rulz]

:roll: you'll see. Don't say i didn't warn you.

[descend_the_shades_of_night]

lol... i believe them if they say they aint havin kids... and yeah they r little shits.. they always want something!!

[Frank Iero Rulz]

but don't you always want something? (point and match)

[Englands-Punk]

Well little kids are hard to take care of and when your a teenager(like me) i know im very rebelious towards my mom and dont listen i just wouldnt want to put up with somone like me ! plus if you have a child and they get older thiers always that day when they tell you thier pregnate at 17 ! WHATS WITH THE UNPROTECTED SEX THESE DAYS ! well im of topis to yeah i dont really like music because of thier labels cause im just stupid in that way and dont know!

[Frank Iero Rulz]

:?: has something happened that ivolves a 17 year old getting pregnant?

[descend_the_shades_of_night]

no u idiot its hypothetical... now do u kno wot that means or do u want a translation?

[Ripe_With_Decay]

OMFG Why the hell is everyone arguing about whether they are going to have children or not and the hell does it have to do with this thread?

[descend_the_shades_of_night]

apparently nothing... gd point... jus a question... but is Within Temptation goth... am curious now...

[Freyja]

To me they are not goth in the slightest.

[Ripe_With_Decay]

apparently nothing... gd point... jus a question... but is Within Temptation goth... am curious now...


I would say that they are. However there music isn't dare I say it 'evil' as Black Metal bands are concidered to be. I guess it all depends what you call 'gothic' and everyone seems to have a different idea so you will never get a clear answer to that question. However their music is actually symphonic metal with gothic metal influences.

[Frank Iero Rulz]

I don't think that they are, they don't have the personality of goths.

[descend_the_shades_of_night]

shut up loser... how the hell do u kno their personality?

[Frank Iero Rulz]

settle down, it's a comment! and it's called interviews. Duh!

[Ross]

descend_the_shades_of_night dont call someone a looser , its a stupid insult.

[Frank Iero Rulz]

yes, but i know for a fact that you've called me that before

[Ross]

No i only insulted you once i called you a "fool". I dont uae the word looser for an insult.
I also will mosty likely not insult you , as i have no idea who you are , so i cant really make any type of jugments on you

[Frank Iero Rulz]

*thinks* I think you said foo.

[Ripe_With_Decay]

I would just like to state that there have been many bands in the past where the members were not concidered as 'goths' and didn't have a goth personality(whatever the hell that is) but their music has still been thought of as gothic or at least influenced by gothic music.

[Frank Iero Rulz]

yes, but i still think that they should atleast be gothic to be in that genre.

[Ripe_With_Decay]

Well then you think wrong.

[Frank Iero Rulz]

well you say wrong.

[Ripe_With_Decay]

Well isn't it obvious that someone doesn't have to be a Goth to make Gothic music. Think of it this way child, one does not have to be an artist to paint niether does one need to be know as a writer to write a novel.

[Frank Iero Rulz]

But then dosn't that make them a poser?

[Ripe_With_Decay]

No of course not. If they were to dress as Goths and not have the sound then maybe because, to pose is a visual thing.

[Frank Iero Rulz]

half of being a goth is the attitude to life though, so how can they be something when missing something?

[Ripe_With_Decay]

The arguement was not whether they were Goths or not. It was whether their music is Gothic or not and the fact is that really anyone who can make music can make music that has a Gothic sound to it... Also there is no 'Gothic Attitude' to life as you put it. All Goths are different thus have different personalities and attitude like any other person.

[Frank Iero Rulz]

:roll: there is no use fighting with you, your not worthy. (and your not right)

[Ripe_With_Decay]

I wonder who the vast majority of people will agree with on this forum, me or you? Let me give you a clue, it won't be you. You cannot back any of your arguements and your replies normally don't make any sense, and I am not worthy? Don't make me laugh foolish child. Try debating with me when you grow up and find your facts out.

[Freyja]

Lol Frank, I think you'll find you are the unworthy one.
Damian may be new to the gothic scene but he does know what he is talking about most of the time.
You, Frank, are not part of the gothic scene. You have no idea about it at all. So I suggest you be quiet.

[Ross]

Nor are you Freyja!

[Englands-Punk]

But then dosn't that make them a poser?

How would it make them a poser! i really dont understand what angle you see this at. i could be all preppy and crap (but im not)and still write songs with a gothic sound to it doesnt make me a poser! it couold ber just the kind of music i like.

[Ripe_With_Decay]

Lol Frank, I think you'll find you are the unworthy one.
Damian may be new to the gothic scene but he does know what he is talking about most of the time.
You, Frank, are not part of the gothic scene. You have no idea about it at all. So I suggest you be quiet.

Thank You

[Ripe_With_Decay]

Ok so now that that stupid Jonny kid has been banned I have no one to discuse the meaning of Goth with (or correct his stupid ideas of the word as it were.) So come on people lets get this thread going again!!!

[Chaos Freak]

they may not be gothic rock, but i know they arent pop rock.

[Ripe_With_Decay]

they may not be gothic rock, but i know they arent pop rock.

Who are you talking about exactly?

[Chaos Freak]

evenesence.

[Ripe_With_Decay]

evenesence.

It would make far more sense if you quoted when refering to things that have arised so far back in a thread.

[Chaos Freak]

oops.

[Fallen_Angel]

I think Evanescence are gothic rock. Well they seem so at least. They don't sound just "rock", if you know what I mean

[don't shoot me]

And I love their music too.

[Gnesao]

i like Evanescence, bought their ablums, and shirt, but i dont think that they are metal, but they are definatley dark, and i really like that more than i do just metal, but i cant really say my favorite goth bands since its really hard to define the genre

[Pearly]

evanescence are good.
but within temptation are better.
and thats coming from someone who just a few months ago has had evanescence as a favourite band for years

[Fallen_Angel]

I like the song "Sweet Sacrifice" quite a lot...

[Rhuin]

I like Poisonblack a lot :)

[DaphinaZ]

Emrm im not in eveansence soo much they are Metall NO WAY are like "Rock"
Only Rock :D

And Goth band
My favorite : NightWish Epica Xandria etc...

[Fallen_Angel]

Are Nightwish similar to Evanescence in any way?

[EmoRockGirl]

Evanescence, Within temptation... :D
Is Skillet a goth band? :-?

[Faust]

i like evanessance..theyr'e not my favorite..but i dont know of many"goth" bands.

[Hitman Devil Dex™]

the only one i know is Evanescence is it true that the band broke up

[Faust]

no correy..it isnt true

[makiki]

at first it is spelled metall not metal and then Nightwish isn't gothica it is not even power metall and Evanescence is stupid pop. If you whant Gothica listen tu Lacrimosa, Sopor aeternus

[Dimbat]

at first it is spelled metall not metal

No, it's metal, with 1 'l' only.

And I don't like any goth bands.

[Captain Crash]

No, it's metal, with 1 'l' only.


Quite correct. Unless you are a German Trades union. ;-)

[n.exodus]

ughh, evanescence are NOT goth! they are ****ing pop rock. end of. I havent heard Elis, but I wouldnt call Leaves Eyes goth either.

Cradle of Filth are goth metal. London After Midnight, End of You, Sisters of Mercy, Fields of the Nepelim etc are goth rock.

Learn what you're talking about before you go make posts.

yeah, creddle of filth is goth and evanescence is pop right?
i wonder from where do u know that much, you're kind've like a metal geniouse, right?

[SxxxyTree]

evanescence r new metal band,i love amy lee.Cradle of Filth r black.

u said gothic band,uhh...Lacrimosa,Moonspell,HIM,Xandria are my fav